tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2210935752673952814.post7654934009008352564..comments2023-11-29T13:50:03.704+01:00Comments on Cycle Chic®: Cargo Bike MumColville-Andersenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16749740728099129703noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2210935752673952814.post-12784066806499336852008-01-30T12:31:00.000+01:002008-01-30T12:31:00.000+01:00I don't know where Hesemans came up with those fig...I don't know where Hesemans came up with those figures but they don't sound correct: Car ownership and use is definitely increasing but I'm not aware of figures suggesting that cycling is actually decreasing. The two are simultaneously possible since there are also other means of transport to decrease and mobility in general seems to be increasing. Its an interesting topic so I just wrote a post about it:<BR/><BR/>http://www.bakfiets-en-meer.nl/2008/01/30/are-the-dutch-replacing-their-bikes-with-cars/<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Groeten,<BR/>HenryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2210935752673952814.post-6092997792640373192008-01-16T09:38:00.000+01:002008-01-16T09:38:00.000+01:00thanks, andy.i can see what you mean. but it's a c...thanks, andy.<BR/>i can see what you mean. but it's a cool photo, no?! :-)<BR/>the Trio has a long way to go to match the sales of the other big brands. <BR/>we don't see that many on the streets here in Copenhagen as of yet.Colville-Andersenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16749740728099129703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2210935752673952814.post-52892259774731124402008-01-16T03:05:00.000+01:002008-01-16T03:05:00.000+01:00So the TrioBike actually made it into production. ...So the TrioBike actually made it into production. While not a bad concept, the end product stills seems like a big miss. To start, the handlebar position is WAY too aggressive (too low) and there is no skirt guard nor chaincase. I could go on about what I heard about the complexity of the attachment mechanism but...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2210935752673952814.post-51151531536343226142008-01-15T10:34:00.000+01:002008-01-15T10:34:00.000+01:00indeed, henry. have a look at this post at bikepor...indeed, henry. have a look at <A HREF="http://bikeportland.org/2008/01/14/what-can-the-netherlands-learn-from-us/#more-6337" REL="nofollow">this post at bikeportland</A>, written by one of your countrymen. <BR/><BR/>"But wait, doesn’t everyone in The Netherlands already ride? Not exactly.<BR/><BR/>"Hesemans estimates that country-wide, the number of people that ride is less than 30% — and he says, due to several factors, those numbers are trending downward."<BR/><BR/>Paradise lost, Henry? :-)Colville-Andersenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16749740728099129703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2210935752673952814.post-80050304001747081532008-01-15T09:07:00.000+01:002008-01-15T09:07:00.000+01:00That about sums it up: Denmark and the Netherlands...That about sums it up: Denmark and the Netherlands are the cycling capitals of the western world, both absurdly far ahead of any other nation. The gap between NL/DK and the rest of the world is really illuminated when you look specifically at urban cycling instead of the general national cycling statistics (yes, with the rapidly shrinking exception of a few asian nations).<BR/><BR/>Groet,<BR/>HenryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2210935752673952814.post-9723740619783719482008-01-13T10:32:00.000+01:002008-01-13T10:32:00.000+01:00i bow to your [nerdy] knowledge, henry. but there ...i bow to your [nerdy] knowledge, henry. but there are DK models you're missing.<BR/><BR/>nevertheless, our two great cycling nations are... well... great.<BR/><BR/>there are, however, great bike cities outside of copenhagen. Odense, Aarhus, Aalborg to name three of the larger ones. <BR/><BR/>while provincial netherlands enjoys a great number of cyclists, provincial denmark is not that far behind.<BR/><BR/>the dutch and the danes both ride around 1000 km a year per capita - rather equal - and far ahead of other countries. <A HREF="http://cycleliciousness.blogspot.com/2007/11/how-much-do-you-ride.html" REL="nofollow">stats and post here</A>Colville-Andersenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16749740728099129703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2210935752673952814.post-51972070131831602022008-01-13T02:47:00.000+01:002008-01-13T02:47:00.000+01:00Hmmm... Good question whether the Netherlands or D...Hmmm... Good question whether the Netherlands or Denmark has more makes of cargo/kid transport bikes (not just bikes with kid seats or a rack on the front but special big ones with boxes and so forth). <BR/><BR/>The Netherlands has:<BR/>WorkCycles, Nijland, Apollo, Bakfiets.nl, Fietsfabriek, 't Mannetje, Onderwater, Gazelle, DeRedding, Feetz, Babboe, Box Bike,Tuk-Tuk, Dutch ID and a handful of Chinese-made rip-offs too horrible to mention.<BR/><BR/>Denmark has (and I'm probably missing a couple smaller outfits here): <BR/>Christiania, Esimex, Nihola, Bella Bike & Sorte Jernherst (or are these the same?), TrioBike & Winther. Velorbis sells the now Swedish Monark Long John but we I'll count it since it was once the Danish SCO.<BR/><BR/>That's a score for the Netherlands but then NL is about twice as big as DK. Also every city in the NL is a bicycle mecca. My one trip to Denmark gave me the impression that cycling is huge in Copenhagen but much less so elsewhere in the country. Is that the case?<BR/><BR/>Groeten,<BR/>Henry<BR/><BR/>ps: Keep up the good work on your great blogs!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2210935752673952814.post-86252880897982708012008-01-11T19:22:00.000+01:002008-01-11T19:22:00.000+01:00addendum: my dad rode an old long john when he was...addendum: my dad rode an old long john when he was a delivery boy at the age of 15 in copenhagen. and that was in 1942... so if the long john was old THEN... it must have been pre WW2. no photos of it, unfortunately.Colville-Andersenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16749740728099129703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2210935752673952814.post-75973581460334757312008-01-11T19:21:00.000+01:002008-01-11T19:21:00.000+01:00raquel: very common!anne: if you shuffled that pup...raquel: very common!<BR/><BR/>anne: if you shuffled that puppy up onto the sidewalk here you would not survive the dirty looks from pedestrians. good thing we have bike lanes...<BR/><BR/>henry: thanks for that info. i'm quite sure that the dutch have fiddled with cargo bikes ever since the danes have.<BR/><BR/>looking at the number of different brands in denmark contra holland, however, we seem to have you beat. (?)<BR/><BR/>in any case, good luck with your new cottage industry down there... :-)Colville-Andersenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16749740728099129703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2210935752673952814.post-38997398776687441662008-01-11T17:16:00.000+01:002008-01-11T17:16:00.000+01:00For as much teasing as I dish out, its only rightf...For as much teasing as I dish out, its only rightful that I get some back! Here's a little cargo bike history, demonstrating what I nerd I can be!<BR/><BR/>Its a very good question when the first dedicated load carrying bikes appeared. I've got a photo of a trike where the riders seems to be pedaling 2 wheels in the front directly through a sort of treadle on the axle, while the rear wheel is little and seems to steer. The cargo box is in the middle. Solid tires. Its dated 1901. They I've a few other undated photos that seem to be about as old. Within a few years after that almost all bikes had pneumatic tires.<BR/><BR/>Long John format bikes (long 2 wheelers with the load behind the front wheel) seem to have appeared in the 1920's. Credit is generally given to the Danish though I've never seen a Danish Long John that was clearly pre WW2. I also haven't really tried to find one. I have seen Dutch transport bikes of the same basic format from both Maxwell and Veeno that appeared to be from the 1920's-1930's. Pashley in England also had a version.<BR/><BR/>The Long John is an extremely handy type of bike so its quite likely that wherever they were invented, it was quickly copied elsewhere. Until the Bakfiets Cargobike child carrier and its copies showed up in about 2001 the Danish had made infinitely more Long Johns than anybody else. I suppose that's why they're all known as Long Johns.<BR/><BR/>Groeten uit Amsterdam,<BR/>HenryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2210935752673952814.post-3448520847282345852008-01-11T16:02:00.000+01:002008-01-11T16:02:00.000+01:00the supermum cargo bike looks great in the bike la...the supermum cargo bike looks great in the bike lane, but if i saw that detached HUMMER stroller coming towards me on a sidewalk it would be a frightening sight!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02950575269494902408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2210935752673952814.post-54184717720162304002008-01-11T15:08:00.000+01:002008-01-11T15:08:00.000+01:00THIS IS THE BEST PHOTO ON BIKES I'VE EVER SEEN!!!I...THIS IS THE BEST PHOTO ON BIKES I'VE EVER SEEN!!!<BR/>Is it common in Copenhague?I love this city!!Gratistotalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13420741342864943987noreply@blogger.com